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Why And How To Tell A Story (Or Transactions vs. Relationships Pt. 2)

A while back I wrote about the difference between operating a transaction-driven business and a relationship-driven business, and how this is a vital distinction to take into account for music as well. Today I wanted to share a video with some thoughts by Peter Guber of the Mandalay Entertainment Group that relate to this same topic. Peter produced or executive produced movies like Rain Man, Gorilla’s In The Mist, The Color Purple and many more movies, so he knows about story telling. I’m happy to be back to blogging after a 6 week hiatus while our expansion at Family Records was taking up all my time! A summary of the thoughts expressed in the video below.

  • On the important of story telling: “When you tell a story, any kind of story, and you aim for somebody’s wallet or you look at them as customers or clients or patrons, they protect their groin and their backside, their wallet. That’s what they do, naturally. You’re aiming for transactions. When you aim for relation and you aim for their heart, that’s where hits are born. When it does that it migrates to your head and to your wallet.”
  • On involving emotions in your story telling: “Your aim for the perfect target is to emotionalize your offering so then the person actually metabolizes the information, the data and the facts in the form of a story. It does two things: acts on it, moves their feet or their wallet, creates a relationship, more than a transaction; and most importantly, they become advocates or apostles for the position and pass along the story as theirs. That’s the key. That’s theirs, it’s their joke, it’s their stories, it’s their narrative. And when they do that, it becomes viral.”
  • On your audience: “Don’t think of them as customers or clients. Think of them as an audience. They expect experiences. And that’s what you’ve got to deliver. And that’s what narrative does, deliver experiences. But know what’s interesting. Don’t try to be interesting… be interested. Think about what’s in it for them. Make sure you spend a little time to cut through the cacophony of their noise, disrupt it so you will have a good landing platform for your tell.”
  • On having goals: “Don’t walk in without a goal! Know what your goal is, you’re wasting your time and theirs, and don’t hide it. All they’ll see is you’re hiding something. Pride it; make sure that goal is generous. Show you have skin in the game. Show you have a real understanding of what laughing and crying together means. And then be interactive. Remember, you’re not telling a story in an empty vacuum or a vacuum or emptiness. You’re telling it with another human being or a group of human beings there. Be interactive, engage them. Don’t make them passengers, make them participants.”
  • On content: “Find it anywhere, your life experience, somebody else’s life experience, history, movies, and just embed the information in it, and realize you’re in emotional transportation business. Move them. Make them laugh, cry, cheer, feel, and they’ll remember that information and that story forever and will buy your product, will join your club, will join your church, will participate in your company, will be a customer or client on a relationship basis. Not just a transactional one.”

Related Reading: Transactions vs. Relationships (Or What Kind Of Artist Are You) read)

4 Comments | Music Business | , | 05.05.11.

  • http://twitter.com/chipjet Matt Pearson

    This is a great article. Very consistent with the advice from Made to Stick by Chip Heath and Dan Heath. Really good book.

    • http://wesleyverhoeve.com Wesley Verhoeve/Family Records

      Thanks Matt! I read and enjoyed that book, and even listed in my list of

      recommended reading: http://www.wesleyverhoeve.com/…

      :)

  • Matthew Smeets

    I'm a great fan and user of 'Ted.com' and really would like to see you appear on there, Wesley. My reason for making use of it is that you can listen to only spoken English, but the person listening who might prefer seeing the translation simultaneously in another language has the choice of choosing a instantaneous translation as a quite unique undescript in as many as 80 different languages as underscrip so unique it's hard to describe if you haven't experienced it yet.

    Believe it or not, this quite unique type of underscript is in many many, up to 80 some, and more different languages. My own hobby has been languages for many years and what I get out of it is hard to describe. I'm sure you won't need it, but you could be doing the world a lot of good talking about what you have to offer.. You could be watched speaking english with an underscrift in many languages ( includinh English in your own voice at the click of a finger to be chosen b the viewer. Im quite sure you are aware of this Al Gore's pet project.

    I myself have a lifetime experience with a number of languages as that's my hobby.
    Everybody can join, and totally free of charge. The beauty is that these lectures are all spoken in english only, except for one single time, when it was spoken in Spanish. It was narrated by the son of a former President of Mexico. But any person watching the program could choose an underscript in whatever choice from as many as 80 languages so uniquely engineered that you would have to go and take a look at it as it would take too long for me to explain it all. Reading your credentials leads me to believe you could take if from here and go take a look at it. If you by chance would already know this program, maybe I may be learning more from you than I could tell you.
    The way this is set up is indeed super. One can only know by using and exploring it to fully appreciate it.

    Please let me know how you are making out, if you had a chance to have a look at it. I myself learned a shitload of languages, even many years of latin and greek so take it from one who has some experience.
    Oh , very nice meeting you accidently at Stein in beeld.
     
    Tieske.

    • http://wesleyverhoeve.com Wesley Verhoeve/Family Records

      Tieske,

      Nice to hear from you. I already knew about you through my dad of course. Very cool!

      Also, it's actually a dream of mine to speak at a TED conference. Working on it :)

      W