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Patience

I’ve been hearing about ArtistData.com for a little while, and am very sympathetic to their core belief that “musicians should only enter data once.” I signed up a while back, but haven’t used it yet so I cannot comment on how well it works. I can, however, comment on the way they’re trying to spread the word. Perhaps there’s a perfectly good explanation for this, one that isn’t “we set up spam accounts and follow a ton of people hoping they click through to us”, but it kind of seems like spam to me? Lets assume I am wrong, this still helps me segue to one of my main frustrations in the music industry. The lack of patience.

It brings me back to those early MySpace days when people would get bots to friend as many people as possible, turning their friend counter is some sort of advertisement of how good a band must be. “Our 200K friends can’t be wrong, even if you’ve never heard of us!”. This kind of short-term thinking is classic “Music Business”. We operate in a business that often values the short-term over the long-term. “Can we create a real lasting career for this artist? Maybe, but lets go for full market burn out in one album cycle and get a ton of money fast.” Don’t think this is not the prevailing attitude in the major label late 90′s/00′s model. Leave some money on the table, per Lefsetz, so you’ll be able to charge more later. It doesn’t matter how many ‘friends’ or ‘followers’ you have, it matter what the quality of your relationship is with those that do follow you. Patience truly is a virtue, and an uncommon one in our business. Have it, and win in this new world.

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3 Comments | tags: | category: Music Business

  • http://www.artistdata.com Brenden Mulligan

    Wesley,

    I’m the founder of ArtistData and I really appreciate you voicing your opinion here. All feedback is great, and I’m hoping to clarify what those messages mean and give you some background. Feel free to reach out to me at bmulligan@artistdata.com.

    We offer a free service to over 15,000 bands. We are working out the kinks in our private beta, and at this time have no budget for marketing or promotion. 99% of our technology and tools does NOT promote ArtistData in any way. When I say that, I mean that when a user updates their MySpace page’s tour calendar with ArtistData, we actually update the MySpace calendar and dont include any ArtistData branding (unlike other companies who force you to put a widget with their logo on your MySpace page). In general, we try to keep all branding to a minimum, because we dont want to get in the way of your interaction with your fans.

    Earlier this year, we integrated with Twitter. We talked with our community about adding one tweet when connecting the account with Twitter. This tweet would serve two purposes. First, it would confirm that the connection is indeed working. Second, it would help us out by spreading the word just a bit. The artists we consulted thought it was a small price for what most users find to be a great, valuable tool.

    Of course, we didn’t want to trick anyone, so we clearly state on our Twitter connection page “Note: When you connect ArtistData with Twitter, ArtistData will post a short message to your Twitter feed confirming that connection.” Users have the option to not connect ArtistData to Twitter, but most do.

    Again, I wanted to clarify where we came from on this and hope to explain our position. We are a company working every day to make musicians lives easier, and thought of as spammers is something we take seriously. We really welcome and appreciate all feedback, so I appreciate you giving a public forum to have this conversation. I hope we’ve given some insight on this, and thanks again for trying out ArtistData!

    Brenden
    http://www.twitter.com/bmull

  • http://wesleyverhoeve.com Wesley Verhoeve

    Thanks for your response Brenden. It’s appreciated. So what I’m gathering here is that this profile is not a fake, but simply a brand new one without any tweets aside from the AD one. That does make it a lot better, in my humble opinion. I personally wouldn’t have an issue with the mere function you’re describing, just if it were employed with fake profiles. Thanks again for clarifying!

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